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The podcast about staying optimistic against all odds

Hosted by Neal Ludevig & Amer Jandali

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HUMANIZING OUR HEROES

Leave Looking Up is a podcast where we humanize our heroes through uplifting conversations about the somewhat tumultuous and often challenging state of the world.

We interview a diverse roster of guests from Grammy Award-winning musicians, to Emmy Award-winning producers, to internationally recognized activists and influencers, educators, innovators, and more.

This conversation series is designed to inspire. We're here to have thoughtful conversations to uncover the models, concepts, and language used by today’s changemakers to help us all keep looking up.

You'll be able to find us at the links below, but for now, subscribe to our newsletter for updates on the season's release!

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LATEST EPISODES

EP. 1: THE ARRIVAL

Meet our hosts, Neal and Amer, for the very first time, as they introduce what this special conversation series is all about.

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COMING SOON

EP. 2: PIERCE FREELON

Meet Pierce Freelon, 2x Grammy Nominee, Former City Councilman, Emmy Award-winning Producer, Author, and most recently inducted into the Kennedy 50.

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EP. 3: SHELAH MARIE

Shelah Marie Meet Shelah Marie; Founder and CEO of The Curvy, Curly, Conscious movement, mental health & wellness influencer, meditation enthusiast, reality tv star & wife of platinum selling artist Ace Hood.

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OUR OBJECTIVES

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DEMYSTIFICATION

We’re here to demystify our guests world and the systems in which they work.

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ORIENT

We want to learn about our guests’ tools, resources and role models to help us all orient on our journeys.

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INSPIRE

We want to leave our listeners inspired and empowered to act.

KIND WORDS FROM
OUR GUESTS & HEROES

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“This very conversation… y'all got me [saying] awesome stuff! I'm like, dang, maybe I should make this into a TED talk…[its] a testament to the vibe that you're bringing and what you're pulling out of me, which is not common.”

PIERCE FREELON, GUEST & HERO

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“...I'm very selective about podcasts that I do, but you two are an incredible duo here... I just feel that this episode, and I'm sure...all the other episodes... are just full of so many gems that make your life better.”

SHELAH MARIE, GUEST & HERO

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“Thank you for having me on this wonderful show.”

CLAIRE WASSERMAN, GUEST & HERO

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